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		<title>By: Matt Fairhurst</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/all-kiwi-music-is-good-yeah-right#comment-386088</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Fairhurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, I didn&#039;t realise I was in such a bad mood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, I didn&#8217;t realise I was in such a bad mood.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Fairhurst</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/all-kiwi-music-is-good-yeah-right#comment-386087</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Fairhurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah!  I don&#039;t know how I came across this thread again, but EK BROWN, you are...you are, well, I really don&#039;t know.  I must be deaf huh?  Sweet.  You must be completely lacking in any musical taste, and you also must have never heard any &lt;i&gt;actual&lt;/i&gt; ``chick[s]&quot; (sic) who can ``mean sing&quot; (sic).  Whatever that means.  And you must also be an idiot.  Wasn&#039;t the whole point of this post about music reviewers&#039; &lt;i&gt;taste&lt;/i&gt;?  And that comments along those lines don&#039;t. actually. mean. shit?
But hell, whatevers.  Yup, that ``chick&quot; Hollie (note I got the spelling of her name right, unlike you, douche), ``can mean sing&quot;.  &quot;Cause she&#039;s a Kiwi, ay bro, and that makes her, like, way better than, you know, Ella and Bessie and Nina and Edith and all them foreign singaz&quot;.  Geez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah!  I don&#8217;t know how I came across this thread again, but EK BROWN, you are&#8230;you are, well, I really don&#8217;t know.  I must be deaf huh?  Sweet.  You must be completely lacking in any musical taste, and you also must have never heard any <i>actual</i> &#8220;chick[s]&#8221; (sic) who can &#8220;mean sing&#8221; (sic).  Whatever that means.  And you must also be an idiot.  Wasn&#8217;t the whole point of this post about music reviewers&#8217; <i>taste</i>?  And that comments along those lines don&#8217;t. actually. mean. shit?<br />
But hell, whatevers.  Yup, that &#8220;chick&#8221; Hollie (note I got the spelling of her name right, unlike you, douche), &#8220;can mean sing&#8221;.  &#8220;Cause she&#8217;s a Kiwi, ay bro, and that makes her, like, way better than, you know, Ella and Bessie and Nina and Edith and all them foreign singaz&#8221;.  Geez.</p>
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		<title>By: EK BROWN</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/all-kiwi-music-is-good-yeah-right#comment-385433</link>
		<dc:creator>EK BROWN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bro and as for Holly you must be deaf, chick can mean sing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bro and as for Holly you must be deaf, chick can mean sing.</p>
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		<title>By: EK BROWN</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/all-kiwi-music-is-good-yeah-right#comment-385432</link>
		<dc:creator>EK BROWN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Zealand music rocks, you get to tell your story how you know it, add in a bit of bullshit, thats how it goes performing artist&#039;s is what New Zealanders are, so yea, say your bit like freddy and enjoy your bloody day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Zealand music rocks, you get to tell your story how you know it, add in a bit of bullshit, thats how it goes performing artist&#8217;s is what New Zealanders are, so yea, say your bit like freddy and enjoy your bloody day.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Goodall</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/all-kiwi-music-is-good-yeah-right#comment-384174</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Goodall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 13:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Fat Freddy&#039;s Drop a lot, and I think Simon Sweetman is wrong, but not because they&#039;re a New Zealand band. In fact, I&#039;m sure I could name plenty of New Zealand artists I don&#039;t like - Dave Dobbyn being the key target of my ire, insipid hokum songwriter that he is. But I&#039;d hate to be in Sweetman&#039;s position, in a position where your voice is heard in a country where to not like something your country&#039;s produced is akin to a crime against humanity for many.

Music is music. Film is film. Television is television. Theatre is theatre. And while we seem to have no problem ripping into New Zealand productions of the last two (though God forbid you say Outrageous Fortune has gone off the rails in the last couple of seasons), the first two seem to have all the universally shit exemplars swept under the rug while everyone flies the flag for &#039;good&#039; New Zealand film and music. It saddens me to see reviewers attacked for not liking something from NZ in those fields, as it feels like they&#039;re treating the artist or filmmaker like children, in need of protection (in fact, the parallels between the response to the Kia Ora Khalid review in Salient earlier this year and this Sweetman brouhaha is eerily similar). It particularly disgusts me to see the artists wade into a debate as if they were just another pundit, and then either be completely disingenuous (DJ Mu adding to the misuse of the word racism in New Zealand news this week) or plain petty (Costa Botes on the reaction of some to Forgotten Silver springs to mind, writing letters to reviewers who didn&#039;t like it, going &quot;you&#039;re wrong because other people liked it&quot;). It&#039;s a mindset we need to remove from our country before we can take what we produce truly seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Fat Freddy&#8217;s Drop a lot, and I think Simon Sweetman is wrong, but not because they&#8217;re a New Zealand band. In fact, I&#8217;m sure I could name plenty of New Zealand artists I don&#8217;t like &#8211; Dave Dobbyn being the key target of my ire, insipid hokum songwriter that he is. But I&#8217;d hate to be in Sweetman&#8217;s position, in a position where your voice is heard in a country where to not like something your country&#8217;s produced is akin to a crime against humanity for many.</p>
<p>Music is music. Film is film. Television is television. Theatre is theatre. And while we seem to have no problem ripping into New Zealand productions of the last two (though God forbid you say Outrageous Fortune has gone off the rails in the last couple of seasons), the first two seem to have all the universally shit exemplars swept under the rug while everyone flies the flag for &#8216;good&#8217; New Zealand film and music. It saddens me to see reviewers attacked for not liking something from NZ in those fields, as it feels like they&#8217;re treating the artist or filmmaker like children, in need of protection (in fact, the parallels between the response to the Kia Ora Khalid review in Salient earlier this year and this Sweetman brouhaha is eerily similar). It particularly disgusts me to see the artists wade into a debate as if they were just another pundit, and then either be completely disingenuous (DJ Mu adding to the misuse of the word racism in New Zealand news this week) or plain petty (Costa Botes on the reaction of some to Forgotten Silver springs to mind, writing letters to reviewers who didn&#8217;t like it, going &#8220;you&#8217;re wrong because other people liked it&#8221;). It&#8217;s a mindset we need to remove from our country before we can take what we produce truly seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Martli</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/all-kiwi-music-is-good-yeah-right#comment-384166</link>
		<dc:creator>Martli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 10:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d also like to add that calling someone a racist because they don&#039;t like your music has to be one of the most pathetic responses to criticism I&#039;ve come across. How deluded  and egotistical do you have to be to think that your music is so good that the only people who don&#039;t like it do so because of your skin colour. The answer is very.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d also like to add that calling someone a racist because they don&#8217;t like your music has to be one of the most pathetic responses to criticism I&#8217;ve come across. How deluded  and egotistical do you have to be to think that your music is so good that the only people who don&#8217;t like it do so because of your skin colour. The answer is very.</p>
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		<title>By: DIck Porkstick</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/all-kiwi-music-is-good-yeah-right#comment-384160</link>
		<dc:creator>DIck Porkstick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 07:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fat Freddy&#039;s are great live but boring and samey on record. Sweetman is right. It isn&#039;t racist just because he doesn&#039;t get a woody over ever two bit hip-hop and dub crew in Aoteroa. Since when did this become the be-all and end-all of NZ music?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fat Freddy&#8217;s are great live but boring and samey on record. Sweetman is right. It isn&#8217;t racist just because he doesn&#8217;t get a woody over ever two bit hip-hop and dub crew in Aoteroa. Since when did this become the be-all and end-all of NZ music?</p>
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		<title>By: Butthead</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/all-kiwi-music-is-good-yeah-right#comment-384159</link>
		<dc:creator>Butthead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 07:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shut up Beavis! Uh-huh-huh-huh-huh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shut up Beavis! Uh-huh-huh-huh-huh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: James Beavis</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/all-kiwi-music-is-good-yeah-right#comment-384152</link>
		<dc:creator>James Beavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 05:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>similar sentiments, guessing it&#039;d make for another bit of interesting reading for yalls</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>similar sentiments, guessing it&#8217;d make for another bit of interesting reading for yalls</p>
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		<title>By: James Beavis</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/all-kiwi-music-is-good-yeah-right#comment-384151</link>
		<dc:creator>James Beavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 05:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.salient.org.nz/arts/music/is-music-criticism-morally-justified</description>
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