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		<title>By: Baffled</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/fly-my-pretties-concert-review-130609#comment-384925</link>
		<dc:creator>Baffled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MBS, I don&#039;t understand the relevance of your last comment. Amusingly enough given your thinly unveiled irritation above, I don&#039;t think I&#039;m the first one to point this out in this thread, but at least you keep people guessing.

Adam, I couldn&#039;t agree more re the one-dimensional story. I was expecting something a bit more than a beautifully drawn and narrated but fundamentally simplistic story with no twist or surprise, barely even an ending. It was all so clunkingly obvious, and the music was at best sympathetic but in no way enabled the storytelling. I was expecting something a bit like Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots but instead got a Ministry for the Environment pamphlet for children set to bizarrely eclectic music.

Having said all of that, I thought the musicians (and Mr Weir Senior for that matter) were superbly talented at what they did, and I enjoyed the show overall. The greatest hits format in the second half did confuse me again - I think a performer needs to consider that the audience may well be totally ignorant of a band (or artistic cooperative, or whatever they call themselves) and its history. Had I been sitting next to a foreigner who had arrived in NZ that day, I would gladly have asked him or her whether they had a clue what the show was meant to be all about.

I reckon they need to start with a strong creative idea that serves as the inspiration for a coherent, audio-visual show (with both acts having some form of connection), or just book the Town Hall and crack out some tunes. Am sure it would be good either way as they did seem to enjoy themselves and seem like jolly nice people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MBS, I don&#8217;t understand the relevance of your last comment. Amusingly enough given your thinly unveiled irritation above, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m the first one to point this out in this thread, but at least you keep people guessing.</p>
<p>Adam, I couldn&#8217;t agree more re the one-dimensional story. I was expecting something a bit more than a beautifully drawn and narrated but fundamentally simplistic story with no twist or surprise, barely even an ending. It was all so clunkingly obvious, and the music was at best sympathetic but in no way enabled the storytelling. I was expecting something a bit like Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots but instead got a Ministry for the Environment pamphlet for children set to bizarrely eclectic music.</p>
<p>Having said all of that, I thought the musicians (and Mr Weir Senior for that matter) were superbly talented at what they did, and I enjoyed the show overall. The greatest hits format in the second half did confuse me again &#8211; I think a performer needs to consider that the audience may well be totally ignorant of a band (or artistic cooperative, or whatever they call themselves) and its history. Had I been sitting next to a foreigner who had arrived in NZ that day, I would gladly have asked him or her whether they had a clue what the show was meant to be all about.</p>
<p>I reckon they need to start with a strong creative idea that serves as the inspiration for a coherent, audio-visual show (with both acts having some form of connection), or just book the Town Hall and crack out some tunes. Am sure it would be good either way as they did seem to enjoy themselves and seem like jolly nice people.</p>
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		<title>By: MBS</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/fly-my-pretties-concert-review-130609#comment-384912</link>
		<dc:creator>MBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Clean were cunts as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Clean were cunts as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/fly-my-pretties-concert-review-130609#comment-384875</link>
		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen or heard Fly My Pretties, so I could be wrong here, but on the basis of this review it sounds like they&#039;re an arty, pretentious band jumping on the environmentalism bandwagon in a sad, misguided attempt to be &quot;hip&quot; and &quot;relevant&quot;.

Thanks for the warning.  Now I won&#039;t inadvertantly waste money on their album, or the time spent listening to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen or heard Fly My Pretties, so I could be wrong here, but on the basis of this review it sounds like they&#8217;re an arty, pretentious band jumping on the environmentalism bandwagon in a sad, misguided attempt to be &#8220;hip&#8221; and &#8220;relevant&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thanks for the warning.  Now I won&#8217;t inadvertantly waste money on their album, or the time spent listening to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a lot clearer, thanks MBS. From what I gather from the programme, the cast of FMP is still heavily skewed towards Wellington performers, and while the FMP sound has developed, I can&#039;t say with any certainty whether this development is largely down to the addition of musicians from outside Wellington or not. I&#039;m sorry I can&#039;t be more help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a lot clearer, thanks MBS. From what I gather from the programme, the cast of FMP is still heavily skewed towards Wellington performers, and while the FMP sound has developed, I can&#8217;t say with any certainty whether this development is largely down to the addition of musicians from outside Wellington or not. I&#8217;m sorry I can&#8217;t be more help.</p>
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		<title>By: MBS</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/fly-my-pretties-concert-review-130609#comment-384829</link>
		<dc:creator>MBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 05:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you seem to need an explanation Adam, I was asking for a comparison between the music on this tour and earlier tours. I do not expect you to follow the assembly around the country, only to understand that the album you bought last year was a recording (thus the title &#039;Live at Bats&#039;), after which FMP did more tours in following years. 

They were an entirely Wellington outfit made up of musicians from many Wellington acts and had a reputation for producing mostly dub orientated music, which Wellington had a reputation - bordering on cliche - for.

I was curious whether the influence of musicians from outside Wellington has an impact on the FMP sound.

I hope this is clear enough for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you seem to need an explanation Adam, I was asking for a comparison between the music on this tour and earlier tours. I do not expect you to follow the assembly around the country, only to understand that the album you bought last year was a recording (thus the title &#8216;Live at Bats&#8217;), after which FMP did more tours in following years. </p>
<p>They were an entirely Wellington outfit made up of musicians from many Wellington acts and had a reputation for producing mostly dub orientated music, which Wellington had a reputation &#8211; bordering on cliche &#8211; for.</p>
<p>I was curious whether the influence of musicians from outside Wellington has an impact on the FMP sound.</p>
<p>I hope this is clear enough for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/fly-my-pretties-concert-review-130609#comment-384820</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug - Thank you for your kind words. I love it when I get constructive criticism, I always take so much from it.

I don&#039;t really know what MBS was asking, because it was a badly-worded question. If he&#039;s/she&#039;s asking if there&#039;s been a progression in the FMP sound, I said that there had been in the review. If MBS is asking if they&#039;ve progressed since their last god knows how many tours because of Aucklanders, I couldn&#039;t feasibly tell you, a) because I don&#039;t actually think there were that many Aucklanders in the cast, b) because I&#039;ve only been a fan of FMP since I picked up the Live At BATS album last year, and c) because I wasn&#039;t able to follow this tour around the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug &#8211; Thank you for your kind words. I love it when I get constructive criticism, I always take so much from it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really know what MBS was asking, because it was a badly-worded question. If he&#8217;s/she&#8217;s asking if there&#8217;s been a progression in the FMP sound, I said that there had been in the review. If MBS is asking if they&#8217;ve progressed since their last god knows how many tours because of Aucklanders, I couldn&#8217;t feasibly tell you, a) because I don&#8217;t actually think there were that many Aucklanders in the cast, b) because I&#8217;ve only been a fan of FMP since I picked up the Live At BATS album last year, and c) because I wasn&#8217;t able to follow this tour around the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/fly-my-pretties-concert-review-130609#comment-384816</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fly My Pretties.  Yawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fly My Pretties.  Yawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Gibbon</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/fly-my-pretties-concert-review-130609#comment-384807</link>
		<dc:creator>Gibbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The heading is
FLY MY PRETTIES CONCERT REVIEW (13/06/09)

in case you couldn&#039;t read, Douggie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The heading is<br />
FLY MY PRETTIES CONCERT REVIEW (13/06/09)</p>
<p>in case you couldn&#8217;t read, Douggie.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Hangley</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/fly-my-pretties-concert-review-130609#comment-384799</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Hangley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AKA the reviewer&#039;s seen one gig and doesn&#039;t really know fucking anything beyond that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AKA the reviewer&#8217;s seen one gig and doesn&#8217;t really know fucking anything beyond that.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/fly-my-pretties-concert-review-130609#comment-384798</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MBS, you&#039;re going have to expand on that question a bit, I&#039;m not entirely sure what you&#039;re asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MBS, you&#8217;re going have to expand on that question a bit, I&#8217;m not entirely sure what you&#8217;re asking.</p>
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