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	<title>Comments on: Salient’s Top 10 albums of the decade</title>
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		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/salient%e2%80%99s-top-10-albums-of-the-decade#comment-388217</link>
		<dc:creator>uggs online sale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Death From Above 1979! Just when I was starting to think no one listened to them. These guys brought the bass guitar back from the dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Death From Above 1979! Just when I was starting to think no one listened to them. These guys brought the bass guitar back from the dead.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/salient%e2%80%99s-top-10-albums-of-the-decade#comment-387265</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fixed. I definitely did put you all as authors when I uploaded everything, but it must have not registered or reverted somehow. Did you make any revisions Kim?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fixed. I definitely did put you all as authors when I uploaded everything, but it must have not registered or reverted somehow. Did you make any revisions Kim?</p>
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		<title>By: Elle Hunt</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/salient%e2%80%99s-top-10-albums-of-the-decade#comment-387252</link>
		<dc:creator>Elle Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is this article only written by Kim and me? Let&#039;s get Ryan, Maggie and James added to the byline. Also for the albums of 2009 article. Thnx Salient web editors :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is this article only written by Kim and me? Let&#8217;s get Ryan, Maggie and James added to the byline. Also for the albums of 2009 article. Thnx Salient web editors <img src='http://salient.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/salient%e2%80%99s-top-10-albums-of-the-decade#comment-387230</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*facepalms himself for not reading the author&#039;s names at the bottom of each album review*

I agree that cynicism and musicians shying away from stating the obvious was behind the lack of really powerful protest music this decade, but.... I&#039;m not sure that writing about how Hitler was evil would have been pointless, at least in the 1930s. I was having a discussion with a history lecturer about the &quot;Don&#039;t invade Iraq&quot; protests in early 2003, and we agreed that although they failed, nothing else could really have worked. So that would suggest that yes, there was good reason to avoid &quot;hackneyed cliches&quot;. But...

Isn&#039;t art at its most vital when it has something to communicate, something to change? Sure, Theophile Gautier would say &quot;no, absolutely not,&quot; but... dammnit, maybe it&#039;s just me wanting art to mean something other than prettiness. Having said that, neither of my favourite albums of the decade were political, so, perhaps I&#039;m forced to agree with you. But I don&#039;t want to. Dammit I don&#039;t want to. Maybe I just want the self-congratulatory feeling of listening to a song that makes me feel like I care. Eep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*facepalms himself for not reading the author&#8217;s names at the bottom of each album review*</p>
<p>I agree that cynicism and musicians shying away from stating the obvious was behind the lack of really powerful protest music this decade, but&#8230;. I&#8217;m not sure that writing about how Hitler was evil would have been pointless, at least in the 1930s. I was having a discussion with a history lecturer about the &#8220;Don&#8217;t invade Iraq&#8221; protests in early 2003, and we agreed that although they failed, nothing else could really have worked. So that would suggest that yes, there was good reason to avoid &#8220;hackneyed cliches&#8221;. But&#8230;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t art at its most vital when it has something to communicate, something to change? Sure, Theophile Gautier would say &#8220;no, absolutely not,&#8221; but&#8230; dammnit, maybe it&#8217;s just me wanting art to mean something other than prettiness. Having said that, neither of my favourite albums of the decade were political, so, perhaps I&#8217;m forced to agree with you. But I don&#8217;t want to. Dammit I don&#8217;t want to. Maybe I just want the self-congratulatory feeling of listening to a song that makes me feel like I care. Eep.</p>
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		<title>By: MBS</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/salient%e2%80%99s-top-10-albums-of-the-decade#comment-387222</link>
		<dc:creator>MBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, also, Music peeps: I think the inclusion of Sound of Silver is a mistake. There are three or four amazing songs on there, granted, but it has by no means the strength and consistency of LCDs debut. I don&#039;t need to list the amazing tracks on the debut for you to understand what I&#039;m saying. I can&#039;t see how Sound of Silver deserves a higher spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, also, Music peeps: I think the inclusion of Sound of Silver is a mistake. There are three or four amazing songs on there, granted, but it has by no means the strength and consistency of LCDs debut. I don&#8217;t need to list the amazing tracks on the debut for you to understand what I&#8217;m saying. I can&#8217;t see how Sound of Silver deserves a higher spot.</p>
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		<title>By: MBS</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/salient%e2%80%99s-top-10-albums-of-the-decade#comment-387221</link>
		<dc:creator>MBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tristan, I would like to say that the one album I can think of that spoke to me about the post 9-11 world is Thom Yorke&#039;s &#039;The Eraser&#039;. As I was so young during the invasion of Iraq, and even younger during the attacks, this album - released a few years on - helped me understand how the world had changed. It communicates the landscape of fear and conspiracies beautifully. I don&#039;t know if it would warrent a top ten spot, but it would definitely be in my top 20.

Also, Endless Numbered Days also sprang to my mind when I read this list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tristan, I would like to say that the one album I can think of that spoke to me about the post 9-11 world is Thom Yorke&#8217;s &#8216;The Eraser&#8217;. As I was so young during the invasion of Iraq, and even younger during the attacks, this album &#8211; released a few years on &#8211; helped me understand how the world had changed. It communicates the landscape of fear and conspiracies beautifully. I don&#8217;t know if it would warrent a top ten spot, but it would definitely be in my top 20.</p>
<p>Also, Endless Numbered Days also sprang to my mind when I read this list.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Wheatley</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/salient%e2%80%99s-top-10-albums-of-the-decade#comment-387218</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Wheatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Tristan:

 Today&#039;s world seems to be more skeptical, and more cynical, than that of the &#039;60s and &#039;70s. I think musicians haven&#039;t bothered with getting political simply because they know that they&#039;d be stating the obvious. Bands have rarely been good at political gestures anyway, they almost always just end up rehashing hackneyed cliches. Everybody knows that America&#039;s wars were stupid (except for ~1/2 of voting Americans apparently), so writing songs about them would be kinda like writing songs about how Hitler was evil. Also, after the failures of the counter-cultural movements in the &#039;60s, as well as the huge let-down of the Bush re-election, many young people simply lost faith in politics, and trying to engage with them in song would probably have seemed trite and a bit pointless. Of course, that all changed with you-know-who, but unfortunately the quality of the music which he inspired hasn&#039;t been much good either (Will.i.am., I&#039;m looking at you).

Anyway, I&#039;m glad you liked the list, but I should probably clarify that it isn&#039;t just mine. The Salient music writers (Ryan, James, Elle, Maggie and myself) got together, had some drinks, and came up with the list together. We each chose one album which we felt we personally wanted to see in the top 10, and the other 5 albums were selected by consensus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Tristan:</p>
<p> Today&#8217;s world seems to be more skeptical, and more cynical, than that of the &#8217;60s and &#8217;70s. I think musicians haven&#8217;t bothered with getting political simply because they know that they&#8217;d be stating the obvious. Bands have rarely been good at political gestures anyway, they almost always just end up rehashing hackneyed cliches. Everybody knows that America&#8217;s wars were stupid (except for ~1/2 of voting Americans apparently), so writing songs about them would be kinda like writing songs about how Hitler was evil. Also, after the failures of the counter-cultural movements in the &#8217;60s, as well as the huge let-down of the Bush re-election, many young people simply lost faith in politics, and trying to engage with them in song would probably have seemed trite and a bit pointless. Of course, that all changed with you-know-who, but unfortunately the quality of the music which he inspired hasn&#8217;t been much good either (Will.i.am., I&#8217;m looking at you).</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m glad you liked the list, but I should probably clarify that it isn&#8217;t just mine. The Salient music writers (Ryan, James, Elle, Maggie and myself) got together, had some drinks, and came up with the list together. We each chose one album which we felt we personally wanted to see in the top 10, and the other 5 albums were selected by consensus.</p>
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		<title>By: Cherie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cherie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed Tristan. Iron and Wine&#039;s &#039;Our Endless Numbered Days&#039; is a damn good album.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed Tristan. Iron and Wine&#8217;s &#8216;Our Endless Numbered Days&#8217; is a damn good album.</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/arts/music/salient%e2%80%99s-top-10-albums-of-the-decade#comment-387207</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lack of really vital musical responses to America&#039;s wars this decade has been pretty sad. Most of the time people just replay old anti-Vietnam War tunes, like Country Joe or something. I would list the video (and to a lesser extent the song) of System of a Down&#039;s Boom! as the sole real exception - watching that video of the largest global protest ever is powerful stuff, but what is most powerful is knowing that it had absolutely no effect.

To put the politics aside and focus on the art - Kim, I&#039;d say this is a pretty damn decent list, obviously these things are ultimately subjective but I&#039;d definitely put your top two picks in my top ten. However, I&#039;m going to have to give top two to the Deftone&#039;s White Pony and Iron &amp; Wine&#039;s Our Endless Numbered Days. Both are sublimely beautiful - you would never think metal could be as pretty as it is on White Pony, and the Passenger is my favourite gay anthem (tho I&#039;m not sure Maynard and Chino meant it that way). As for Our Endless Numbered Days, Beam&#039;s voice is jaw-droppingly gorgeous, and tracks like Soddom South Georgia can be both clever and sublime at once. But I&#039;m not going to say that you &quot;missed&quot; either album since these lists are about personal taste. And I don&#039;t agree with Josh that these lists are stupid (provided there&#039;s no pretence at objectivity); they&#039;re a way of sharing what you love with other people. Miao.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lack of really vital musical responses to America&#8217;s wars this decade has been pretty sad. Most of the time people just replay old anti-Vietnam War tunes, like Country Joe or something. I would list the video (and to a lesser extent the song) of System of a Down&#8217;s Boom! as the sole real exception &#8211; watching that video of the largest global protest ever is powerful stuff, but what is most powerful is knowing that it had absolutely no effect.</p>
<p>To put the politics aside and focus on the art &#8211; Kim, I&#8217;d say this is a pretty damn decent list, obviously these things are ultimately subjective but I&#8217;d definitely put your top two picks in my top ten. However, I&#8217;m going to have to give top two to the Deftone&#8217;s White Pony and Iron &amp; Wine&#8217;s Our Endless Numbered Days. Both are sublimely beautiful &#8211; you would never think metal could be as pretty as it is on White Pony, and the Passenger is my favourite gay anthem (tho I&#8217;m not sure Maynard and Chino meant it that way). As for Our Endless Numbered Days, Beam&#8217;s voice is jaw-droppingly gorgeous, and tracks like Soddom South Georgia can be both clever and sublime at once. But I&#8217;m not going to say that you &#8220;missed&#8221; either album since these lists are about personal taste. And I don&#8217;t agree with Josh that these lists are stupid (provided there&#8217;s no pretence at objectivity); they&#8217;re a way of sharing what you love with other people. Miao.</p>
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