Comments on: Roger’s VSM bill

By: Alpha

Alpha — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:38:47 +0000

Posted by Milkshakes:
“Contact VUWSA with a detailed description of your reasons for objecting to having to become a member.

Disagreeing philosophically with the organisation is not sufficient.

You will then be required to present this argument to a panel of VUWSA executive members and appointees who will judge your application.

If they deem it acceptable, you may then donate your fee to a charity of VUWSA’s choosing.”

Can you PLEASE answer why we can’t just reform the opt-out process, instead of changing to an opt-in process? We all know students are apathetic, so why would they go to the bother of signing up to VUWSA, even if they didn’t disagree with it on philosophical grounds? With opt-out, if you want, you can leave. The fact is, the majority of students don’t care either way. In an effort to retain student services, an opt-out would be of greater benefit to those who actually rely on, or simply make use of these services.

You just want the destruction of VUWSA, you really don’t care about misrepresentation.

By: peteremcc

peteremcc — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:41:14 +0000

Phillip,

Most of the things you listed as services being under threat aren’t paid for by VUWSA anyway, they’re paid for by the university from the Student Services Levy that you pay ASWELL as the VUWSA levy that you pay.

By: Phillip Simpson

Phillip Simpson — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:30:55 +0000

It is true that nobody should be forced to join an organisation. However what were to happen if VSM does come into effect. Most likely the majority of students will choose not to join, thinking they saved between 100 – 200 dollars a year. This will result in alot of services being lost, such as gym (and cheap memberships) free (or low cost) doctors on campus, social activities like sport teams, tournaments and social events. Who is going to provide all these. Universities do not have to provide these services. Under most cotractual agreements (between student and university) the only things the university has to provide is that of a quality tertiary education. and if universities decide to continue those services no doubt fees will have to rise considerable. My point is will the general student population be better or worse of if VSM is passed and my vote is for the latter.

By: CJH

CJH — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:20:31 +0000

Oh and for those IDIOTS who claim this is ACT forcing it on students… you fucking dolts. Are you saying ACT is compulsorily getting rid of compulsion? Are you kidding?

By: CJH

CJH — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:18:13 +0000

Ha ha ha ha ha. I can’t wait to see VUWSA die a painful death when VSM comes to town. You bought it on yourselves after too many years of shitting over students.

The VSM movement only has to use VUWSA as an example of why VSM should come into place. Thanks to VUWSA, you have ruined it for others…. fuck you very much!

By: Fandango

Fandango — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:09:23 +0000

@Nick Keesing – I remember you from Auckland! You were the dude who like, lived in the quad for a while, and always turned up to english hons stoned and angry right?

Sugar, I’d take a look in the mirror before you get all nasty about others.

Yo’ ugly.

By: Jose Mendezzz

Jose Mendezzz — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 10:10:39 +0000

I used to think it was good for everyone to be made to join the union, but after watching in shock, the god awful performance of the exec members, i am much less bothered by this issue.

The whole ANZAC kerfuffle was just disgraceful, it really was nothing to be proud of…

The <3 my penis, oh lord

Maybe if there was a mature sensible leadership over there this wouldn't be an issue, but sadly the students who do need the the financial support and the social help clubs provide, are going to be at the biggest disadvantage.

But if the truth be told, I would opt out if given the choice from the start. Just because the small petty house politics are always the same bollocks and the the students have to pay for it….yeah na yeah naaaaaa…..

By: Roger Mussolini

Roger Mussolini — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:50:45 +0000

We at ACT have forced through VSM. Nyah ha ha! Now the only scungy vacuous fucking parasite dog people are ACT Party MPs!

By: Nichols Philip Keesing

Nichols Philip Keesing — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 08:25:23 +0000

Lets celebrate!!!!

first reading of VSM bill this Wednesday
ACT + NATZ = enough to pass it

see you later you scungy vacuous NZUSA dogs

bye bye to that that vile over-weight beast Sophia Blair, grown fat from the students pockets, echoing the monstrous Rebecca Matthews and Sarah Helm from days gone by. uuurrgh and that dreadful Randall sister guy, you and Sutton-beast got crushed in Epsom yayahahaha!

bye bye to decades of corruption, an end to an era of exploitation and trough feeding from the poor students to fatten try-hard chardonnay socialists careers with nothing to say

good riddance you fucking parasite dog people you never did shit for us.

hahahahaha

go get real jobs

By: Rodney Hide

Rodney Hide — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:30:42 +0000

Yes I am a jerk off and a buffoon!