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	<title>Comments on: Head to head: that VSM will benefit students</title>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/columns/head-to-head-that-vsm-will-benefit-students#comment-389122</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tequila - I fail to understand how you can argue that AUSA is well organised financially? Have you looked at their last set of audited accounts? They&#039;re heavily significant debt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tequila &#8211; I fail to understand how you can argue that AUSA is well organised financially? Have you looked at their last set of audited accounts? They&#8217;re heavily significant debt!</p>
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		<title>By: Tequila</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/columns/head-to-head-that-vsm-will-benefit-students#comment-389094</link>
		<dc:creator>Tequila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS, God bless students associations but the way they&#039;re run really is unacceptable. I&#039;d be more inclined to join an SA if it was voluntary - and actually showed itself to be working on behalf of a significant number - as it did at Auckland. I&#039;m a total lefty but I do not believe that Students Associations nowadays are worthy of this responsibility. We need smaller, context-specific student run organisations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS, God bless students associations but the way they&#8217;re run really is unacceptable. I&#8217;d be more inclined to join an SA if it was voluntary &#8211; and actually showed itself to be working on behalf of a significant number &#8211; as it did at Auckland. I&#8217;m a total lefty but I do not believe that Students Associations nowadays are worthy of this responsibility. We need smaller, context-specific student run organisations.</p>
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		<title>By: Tequila</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/columns/head-to-head-that-vsm-will-benefit-students#comment-389093</link>
		<dc:creator>Tequila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VSM works very well at the University of Auckland. One of the reasons is that it is organised, it knows how to prioritise its finances, the students are more discerning as regards who they vote in, the students have a more mature and responsible outlook. VUWSA is THE one place where VSM just has to be introduced asap. The organisation is a shambles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VSM works very well at the University of Auckland. One of the reasons is that it is organised, it knows how to prioritise its finances, the students are more discerning as regards who they vote in, the students have a more mature and responsible outlook. VUWSA is THE one place where VSM just has to be introduced asap. The organisation is a shambles.</p>
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		<title>By: Student student</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/columns/head-to-head-that-vsm-will-benefit-students#comment-388944</link>
		<dc:creator>Student student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@electrum stardust: How can you say that Act is &#039;telling people what to think&#039; when thats exactly what you&#039;re doing, by telling people to think as &#039;fellow students&#039;?

More importantly how about we let everyone decide for themselves whether they want to think of themselves as a &#039;fellow student&#039;, or whether they buy into the so called Act party line of thinking as an individual, by letting them decide whether or not they want to join a students association? If you think students are clever enough to make desisions for themselves you will surely support that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@electrum stardust: How can you say that Act is &#8216;telling people what to think&#8217; when thats exactly what you&#8217;re doing, by telling people to think as &#8216;fellow students&#8217;?</p>
<p>More importantly how about we let everyone decide for themselves whether they want to think of themselves as a &#8216;fellow student&#8217;, or whether they buy into the so called Act party line of thinking as an individual, by letting them decide whether or not they want to join a students association? If you think students are clever enough to make desisions for themselves you will surely support that?</p>
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		<title>By: Electrum Stardust</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/columns/head-to-head-that-vsm-will-benefit-students#comment-388938</link>
		<dc:creator>Electrum Stardust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>King is absolutely spot on.

What ACT is trying to spread (like a virus) is the idea that everyone should conceive herself as an individual &#039;taxpayer&#039; first and foremost, ahead of other important considerations in life.

As a university student, one should learn to think independently, and not let others tell you what to think (e.g. what constitutes real &quot;freedom&quot;). At the same time, one should help others do the same, as a &#039;&lt;em&gt;&#039;fellow student&#039;&lt;/em&gt;, i.e. not just a &#039;taxpayer&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>King is absolutely spot on.</p>
<p>What ACT is trying to spread (like a virus) is the idea that everyone should conceive herself as an individual &#8216;taxpayer&#8217; first and foremost, ahead of other important considerations in life.</p>
<p>As a university student, one should learn to think independently, and not let others tell you what to think (e.g. what constitutes real &#8220;freedom&#8221;). At the same time, one should help others do the same, as a &#8216;<em>&#8216;fellow student&#8217;</em>, i.e. not just a &#8216;taxpayer&#8217;.</p>
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