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	<title>Comments on: Valerie Morse: Rebel Without a Pause</title>
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		<title>By: Flag burner Morse condemns McCully over Gaza &#171; The Inquiring Mind</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/features/valerie-morse-rebel-without-a-pause#comment-372554</link>
		<dc:creator>Flag burner Morse condemns McCully over Gaza &#171; The Inquiring Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] However to return to what sparked this post off, which was the letter from Valerie Morse. the name rang a bell, so Adam googled Valerie Morse. It would appear that Ms Morse is one of the Urewera 17 and is to face charges in respect of her involvement in the alleged activities of that group of activists. Scoop has a profile here. Salient ran an article on MS Morse as well. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] However to return to what sparked this post off, which was the letter from Valerie Morse. the name rang a bell, so Adam googled Valerie Morse. It would appear that Ms Morse is one of the Urewera 17 and is to face charges in respect of her involvement in the alleged activities of that group of activists. Scoop has a profile here. Salient ran an article on MS Morse as well. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: People against everything &#171; 100 Word Blog</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/features/valerie-morse-rebel-without-a-pause#comment-341428</link>
		<dc:creator>People against everything &#171; 100 Word Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 06:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Valerie Morse reinforces this stereotype for me. Most of her protesting had just been a tiresome protest diva [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Valerie Morse reinforces this stereotype for me. Most of her protesting had just been a tiresome protest diva [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sally Barnes</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/features/valerie-morse-rebel-without-a-pause#comment-291272</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valerie&#039;s self-important comments about not being involved in domination and coercion strike me as extremely ironic given her recent involvement with the &quot;terrorism&quot; case.  If I recall, Valerie herself was charged with firearms charges, including possession of a military-style semi-automatic rifle, Molotov cocktails and ammunition.  Anti-war indeed.

Being a freedom fighter is all very well -  but let&#039;s keep our fights to words, Valerie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valerie&#8217;s self-important comments about not being involved in domination and coercion strike me as extremely ironic given her recent involvement with the &#8220;terrorism&#8221; case.  If I recall, Valerie herself was charged with firearms charges, including possession of a military-style semi-automatic rifle, Molotov cocktails and ammunition.  Anti-war indeed.</p>
<p>Being a freedom fighter is all very well &#8211;  but let&#8217;s keep our fights to words, Valerie.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/features/valerie-morse-rebel-without-a-pause#comment-53690</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 11:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really I was just joking about the tasering! But what is fucked up about her opinion especially about Timor is the ANZAC troops went in to stop Timorese being tortured in this manner by the Indonesian military and police. Would the Timorese prefer the indonesians to reoccupy the country again? The situation today is far more preferable to what it was.     

 Her stance is not really one of being against imperialism, militirism or human rights abuses on principle but just selected examples where certain western countries are involved. That is the only criteria that she had for protesting. If she held a protest at the Chinese embassy against involvement of PetroChina in Sudan the the propping up of the Zimbabwean regime then her interest in human rights would come across as genuine. I think that she&#039;s a fake and a hypocrite for that reason as there is no consistency in her principles. If you think about her statements in the context of what has just happened then she makes no sense or is suffering from acute self-delusion.

&quot;Seeming to stop something from happening in that moment in time doesnâ€™t necessarily stop those things from happening over and over and over again.&quot;

So what do you want to happen, ignore human rights abuses because they are probably going to occur in a future Timor. That is a cynical rationale that Kissinger would have been proud of to justify. 

&quot;What we need to do is to perhaps let them sort out their own lives and go from there.&quot;

Hello! Anyone remembering the rioting, killings, anarchy and civil war that broke out recently? Let&#039;s just forget about that since it inconviences our rose tinted views. What the Timorese need is a strong civil society with rule of law and reliable government institutions. Do you think those things appear out of thin air in a devestated country with little capacity or experience to develop them?     

Being a New Zealander is more than just being born in Takapuna and living in Wellington for 10 years. Its acknowledging and respecting the importance our culture and traditions of which ANZAC day is an important part. Her protest simply demonstrates her ignorance of what it is to be a New Zealander. Hardly a gutsy move is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really I was just joking about the tasering! But what is fucked up about her opinion especially about Timor is the ANZAC troops went in to stop Timorese being tortured in this manner by the Indonesian military and police. Would the Timorese prefer the indonesians to reoccupy the country again? The situation today is far more preferable to what it was.     </p>
<p> Her stance is not really one of being against imperialism, militirism or human rights abuses on principle but just selected examples where certain western countries are involved. That is the only criteria that she had for protesting. If she held a protest at the Chinese embassy against involvement of PetroChina in Sudan the the propping up of the Zimbabwean regime then her interest in human rights would come across as genuine. I think that she&#8217;s a fake and a hypocrite for that reason as there is no consistency in her principles. If you think about her statements in the context of what has just happened then she makes no sense or is suffering from acute self-delusion.</p>
<p>&#8220;Seeming to stop something from happening in that moment in time doesnâ€™t necessarily stop those things from happening over and over and over again.&#8221;</p>
<p>So what do you want to happen, ignore human rights abuses because they are probably going to occur in a future Timor. That is a cynical rationale that Kissinger would have been proud of to justify. </p>
<p>&#8220;What we need to do is to perhaps let them sort out their own lives and go from there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hello! Anyone remembering the rioting, killings, anarchy and civil war that broke out recently? Let&#8217;s just forget about that since it inconviences our rose tinted views. What the Timorese need is a strong civil society with rule of law and reliable government institutions. Do you think those things appear out of thin air in a devestated country with little capacity or experience to develop them?     </p>
<p>Being a New Zealander is more than just being born in Takapuna and living in Wellington for 10 years. Its acknowledging and respecting the importance our culture and traditions of which ANZAC day is an important part. Her protest simply demonstrates her ignorance of what it is to be a New Zealander. Hardly a gutsy move is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl Ward</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/features/valerie-morse-rebel-without-a-pause#comment-53444</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 05:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes,  I am aware that she was born here, but she lived much of her life in amerca, and NZ would be a much better place if she went back there.

Now there&#039;s a thought. How about starting a collection to buy her a one-way ticket?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes,  I am aware that she was born here, but she lived much of her life in amerca, and NZ would be a much better place if she went back there.</p>
<p>Now there&#8217;s a thought. How about starting a collection to buy her a one-way ticket?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/features/valerie-morse-rebel-without-a-pause#comment-52572</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 12:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What utter disrespect on such a day. I am saddend that we have people of such belligerence in this bloody great country of ours. Years ago I was deployed too one of those countries and nearly went to a second one of the three she refers to. Even just our presence in one area put a scared village at ease due too two of them being tortured to death and the rest of them being held captive for four days on a beach several months before hand. Does this woman think soldiers go overseas to club babies and abuse their women?!? Im now thinking she just likes the sound of her own (attention seeking) voice a bit too much. The idea in Johns post carries weight... but, Ms Morse, open your eyes and WAKE UP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What utter disrespect on such a day. I am saddend that we have people of such belligerence in this bloody great country of ours. Years ago I was deployed too one of those countries and nearly went to a second one of the three she refers to. Even just our presence in one area put a scared village at ease due too two of them being tortured to death and the rest of them being held captive for four days on a beach several months before hand. Does this woman think soldiers go overseas to club babies and abuse their women?!? Im now thinking she just likes the sound of her own (attention seeking) voice a bit too much. The idea in Johns post carries weight&#8230; but, Ms Morse, open your eyes and WAKE UP!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/features/valerie-morse-rebel-without-a-pause#comment-52309</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 21:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darryl Ward, sorry, Val was born here. Don&#039;t try to be a bigot, and get it wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darryl Ward, sorry, Val was born here. Don&#8217;t try to be a bigot, and get it wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/features/valerie-morse-rebel-without-a-pause#comment-52307</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 21:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmmm the soldiers fought for our freedom, and when someone consequently exercises their freedom of speech she is arrested and people say she shouldn&#039;t say things like she did and when she did? So what freedom were these soldiers fighting for???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmmm the soldiers fought for our freedom, and when someone consequently exercises their freedom of speech she is arrested and people say she shouldn&#8217;t say things like she did and when she did? So what freedom were these soldiers fighting for???</p>
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		<title>By: Boondocks</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/features/valerie-morse-rebel-without-a-pause#comment-52261</link>
		<dc:creator>Boondocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 13:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Zealanders fought overseas so people like her can be free! She should respect that by not insulting those freedom fighters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Zealanders fought overseas so people like her can be free! She should respect that by not insulting those freedom fighters.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/features/valerie-morse-rebel-without-a-pause#comment-52192</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 05:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The police should have doused her with water and tasered her.</description>
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