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	<title>Comments on: No Joy from Joyce</title>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/no-joy-from-joyce#comment-391047</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet more short-sighted policy from a short-sighted government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet more short-sighted policy from a short-sighted government.</p>
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		<title>By: Shitkicker McGee</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/no-joy-from-joyce#comment-391034</link>
		<dc:creator>Shitkicker McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EFTS is for Fun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EFTS is for Fun</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/no-joy-from-joyce#comment-391032</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 06:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A full-time student studies between 0.8 and 1.4 EFTS a year&quot;

Really? I`d like to see comment from someone who studies 1.4 EFTS in a year. Even if they did, they`d take 5 years to run out of EFTS. At 0.8 EFTs  ( what most study) it is nearly 9 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A full-time student studies between 0.8 and 1.4 EFTS a year&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? I`d like to see comment from someone who studies 1.4 EFTS in a year. Even if they did, they`d take 5 years to run out of EFTS. At 0.8 EFTs  ( what most study) it is nearly 9 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Jono</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/no-joy-from-joyce#comment-391030</link>
		<dc:creator>Jono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 02:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A lifetime limit on access to the Student Loan Scheme was introduced in Budget 2010. The limit for undergraduate study is 7 EFTS (Equivalent Full Time Student)&quot;

This is wrong.

The 7 EFTS are for whatever you want.

You can even the Cabinet paper describing the change at: http://www.minedu.govt.nz/~/media/MinEdu/Files/TheMinistry/Budget2010/SOC10_42StudentSupportPackageRELEASED.pdf

Fail-Article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A lifetime limit on access to the Student Loan Scheme was introduced in Budget 2010. The limit for undergraduate study is 7 EFTS (Equivalent Full Time Student)&#8221;</p>
<p>This is wrong.</p>
<p>The 7 EFTS are for whatever you want.</p>
<p>You can even the Cabinet paper describing the change at: <a href="http://www.minedu.govt.nz/~/media/MinEdu/Files/TheMinistry/Budget2010/SOC10_42StudentSupportPackageRELEASED.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.minedu.govt.nz/~/media/MinEdu/Files/TheMinistry/Budget2010/SOC10_42StudentSupportPackageRELEASED.pdf</a></p>
<p>Fail-Article.</p>
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		<title>By: smackdown</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/no-joy-from-joyce#comment-391028</link>
		<dc:creator>smackdown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 01:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so what does this mean for my post grad diploma in fun studies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what does this mean for my post grad diploma in fun studies</p>
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		<title>By: Deco</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/no-joy-from-joyce#comment-391023</link>
		<dc:creator>Deco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lifetime limit (from 2010 study) is 7 EFTS which can be &quot;spent&quot; on anything.  So if you manage to finish your degree and your honours/Masters within that 7 EFTS you are sweet.  If you need more than 7 EFTS, then you have 1 more for postgrad and another 3 for Doctoral study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lifetime limit (from 2010 study) is 7 EFTS which can be &#8220;spent&#8221; on anything.  So if you manage to finish your degree and your honours/Masters within that 7 EFTS you are sweet.  If you need more than 7 EFTS, then you have 1 more for postgrad and another 3 for Doctoral study.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/no-joy-from-joyce#comment-391022</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But honours is postgrad study.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But honours is postgrad study&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/no-joy-from-joyce#comment-391021</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In terms of a three year degree and honours, only if  you study  full time and fail a good deal of your papers before resitting and passing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of a three year degree and honours, only if  you study  full time and fail a good deal of your papers before resitting and passing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/no-joy-from-joyce#comment-391020</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 21:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF?
Have I got this straight? If I want to do postgrad I have to choose between Masters and Honours but I can&#039;t do both unless I&#039;m rich?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF?<br />
Have I got this straight? If I want to do postgrad I have to choose between Masters and Honours but I can&#8217;t do both unless I&#8217;m rich?</p>
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