Comments on: VUWSA at war with itself. Confusion reigns

By: smackdown

smackdown — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:31:39 +0000

vuwsa is so bad someone bin it

By: Orange

Orange — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:01:51 +0000

Say what you want about National Socialism, at least its an ethos.

By: Magonagal

Magonagal — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:41:23 +0000

Hahahahahahahah. These vids are just hilarious. Couldn’t have provided Roger Douglas with better ads if these had been scripted and staged.

By: Hank Scorpio

Hank Scorpio — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 04:40:54 +0000

there really isn’t a single person who looks good in any one of those three vids just hammers home the idea that students are an unorganised rabble more interested in petty bullshit than doing anything of substance

By: Adam

Adam — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 03:14:49 +0000

Orange – just because ACT may be bad in all those ways, doesn’t mean they can’t manage a rare moment of lucidity or two. And just because people support VSM, doesn’t mean they suddenly become rabid ACT supporters.

By: Lime

Lime — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 02:06:46 +0000

RIP democracy, killed by VUWSA and Orange (and Bill)

By: Orange

Orange — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:20:53 +0000

I think this clouds the real issue – how in the world have students become so moronic that ACT on Campus can manage to drum up enough people to pass motions at Student Exec meetings. At the latest Christchurch meeting, they had one member turn up. One.

I mean….this is the party that denies climate change, pro-smacking, privatise ACC, cut taxes for the rich, allowed the demonic David Garrett into Parliament. Something is seriously wrong where young people support this bullshit. Seriously depressing. Good on VUWSA for pissing them off; they deserve it for committing treason against the collective student soul.

By: Madas

Madas — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:15:10 +0000

I really feel for JF… when VUWSA goes down she will be rembered as the one who let it fail… Despite the fact this generation of students… are simply not ideaologically driven, (just talk to them and you’ll see, pragmatists to the core and leadership should pay attention to the constituency mood)…the writing really has been on the wall for over 10 years. The funny thing is the lack of planning, where is the contingency fund? Student Associations were here (VSM legislation) in 1999… and nothing has been put in place? Is this a cynical belief that the associations will be able to manipulate their constitutions to ensure survival, or just plain head in the sand blind stupidity… either way you have to wonder if something preferable can come out of this mess.

By: Adam

Adam — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 00:30:25 +0000

Electrum – what’s your point? VUWSA’s meant to be under the scrutiny of all the students now, and all it’s doing is pandering to a radical left viewpoint that a fine minority of students hold (though, admittedly under Freemantle, she has taken one or two steps to rectify that, and in return, she’s been kicked out of the Workers Party because they thought she was just going to be a puppet). Meanwhile, VUWSA struggles to get quorum at most SRCs and the majority of students don’t get anything from VUWSA other than $150 sucked out of their bank accounts every year.

So, we’re left with two options – either this completely unrepresentative system continues, and students are forced to continue shelling out money year upon year without seeing the benefits other than Salient and maybe a half-hearted appearance by VUWSA at meetings about raising fees; or, we bring in VSM, and then VUWSA is put under more scrutiny to be representative of more than just a Workers Party or ACT on Campus fringe, because if it doesn’t become representative of the entire student body, it will die. The current CSM system tacitly condones VUWSA’s current misrepresentation of the student body. VSM does not. It’s not about VUWSA becoming controlled by a fringe group like it is now – it’s about VUWSA surviving through representing everyone and removing politics from the equation.

By: Stephen Whittington

Stephen Whittington — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:34:24 +0000

I know of no ideology that says that Joel Cosgrove is an idiot. Had I used that as my reason, then I would not have been able to leave. The fact that the bases on which you to choose to leave are determined by law means that we have no choice. By analogy, do you think that people were not drafted into the military by force because there was an exception for those who had genuine religious belief that war was evil?

In regard to voting, we should not have to increase turnout. But, even if turnout was 100%, there would still be misrepresentation because students do not speak with one voice. Even if 60% of all students wanted to pay for Workers Party printing costs (as has happened in the past – I can send you the minutes if you want), it should still not be happening with my money.