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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/women%e2%80%99s-rights-officer-fired#comment-41594</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- &quot;Another excellent case study for VSM. Every student will be paying for this and theres nothing you can do about it. Looks like VUWSA is falling apart, and quickly.&quot;

If the money is retrieved from Clelia, as this article states is the VUWSA executive&#039;s intention, &quot;every student&quot; could not possibly be paying for this - just one.

Graeme: There is more information on this topic in this week&#039;s Eye On Exec</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- &#8220;Another excellent case study for VSM. Every student will be paying for this and theres nothing you can do about it. Looks like VUWSA is falling apart, and quickly.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the money is retrieved from Clelia, as this article states is the VUWSA executive&#8217;s intention, &#8220;every student&#8221; could not possibly be paying for this &#8211; just one.</p>
<p>Graeme: There is more information on this topic in this week&#8217;s Eye On Exec</p>
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		<title>By: Joely Doe</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/women%e2%80%99s-rights-officer-fired#comment-41070</link>
		<dc:creator>Joely Doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The case for Compulsory Student Membership is still strong.  After all, without all students being forced to pay for these continuing mismanagement&#039;s, how would VUWSA pay its bills?  Imagine how many would still join, if they could vote with their feet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The case for Compulsory Student Membership is still strong.  After all, without all students being forced to pay for these continuing mismanagement&#8217;s, how would VUWSA pay its bills?  Imagine how many would still join, if they could vote with their feet?</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Edgeler</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/women%e2%80%99s-rights-officer-fired#comment-41066</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Edgeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m somewhat appalled/laughing a lot at Clelia&#039;s reported actions, but am aghast at VUWSA&#039;s proposed solution.

VUWSA is not the university, and the university is not a debt collector - Critic and OUSA have spent recent years opposing proposals to increase Otago University&#039;s power over students and VUWSA should be doing the same.

Will it support the university withholding degrees and course changes from those with unpaid power bills or rent arrears? I certainly hope not.

VUWSA has a right to be peeved off, but it shouldn&#039;t seek to vastly increase the power of the university for a few thousand dollars. If VUWSA wants its money back it should file a claim in the disputes tribunal (it&#039;ll cost them $50) and/or engage a debt collection agency.

And I&#039;ll be just as annoyed with the university if it agrees to this.

Oh - and pay Chris Renwick his honorarium. The honorarium may have been foolishly raised a number of years ago, but it&#039;s his right and he should be paid - if people within VUWSA think he&#039;s not doing enough to be paid, or don&#039;t like him or his actions enough to pay him they have two options:

1) If they don&#039;t think it impacts on his continuing to hold office, then lower or refuse his bonus(es); or
2) If it&#039;s more serious, file a petition for an SGM to move a motion of no confidence.

Like it or not, Renwick was elected. His election may have been guarenteed when Alexander Nielson won Treasurer, but people voted for him and have left him in office for the 3~4 months he served. And they voted and haven&#039;t sought his removal knowing he&#039;s entitled to be paid - however little work he does and however much he annoys anyone else.

And if these options are considered insufficient then try to change the rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m somewhat appalled/laughing a lot at Clelia&#8217;s reported actions, but am aghast at VUWSA&#8217;s proposed solution.</p>
<p>VUWSA is not the university, and the university is not a debt collector &#8211; Critic and OUSA have spent recent years opposing proposals to increase Otago University&#8217;s power over students and VUWSA should be doing the same.</p>
<p>Will it support the university withholding degrees and course changes from those with unpaid power bills or rent arrears? I certainly hope not.</p>
<p>VUWSA has a right to be peeved off, but it shouldn&#8217;t seek to vastly increase the power of the university for a few thousand dollars. If VUWSA wants its money back it should file a claim in the disputes tribunal (it&#8217;ll cost them $50) and/or engage a debt collection agency.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll be just as annoyed with the university if it agrees to this.</p>
<p>Oh &#8211; and pay Chris Renwick his honorarium. The honorarium may have been foolishly raised a number of years ago, but it&#8217;s his right and he should be paid &#8211; if people within VUWSA think he&#8217;s not doing enough to be paid, or don&#8217;t like him or his actions enough to pay him they have two options:</p>
<p>1) If they don&#8217;t think it impacts on his continuing to hold office, then lower or refuse his bonus(es); or<br />
2) If it&#8217;s more serious, file a petition for an SGM to move a motion of no confidence.</p>
<p>Like it or not, Renwick was elected. His election may have been guarenteed when Alexander Nielson won Treasurer, but people voted for him and have left him in office for the 3~4 months he served. And they voted and haven&#8217;t sought his removal knowing he&#8217;s entitled to be paid &#8211; however little work he does and however much he annoys anyone else.</p>
<p>And if these options are considered insufficient then try to change the rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Douch</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/women%e2%80%99s-rights-officer-fired#comment-40898</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Douch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha I threw her out of my flat for exactly the same thing. Clelia you still owe Tony a couple of hundred for you calls still! I think she deserves everything that she gets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha I threw her out of my flat for exactly the same thing. Clelia you still owe Tony a couple of hundred for you calls still! I think she deserves everything that she gets.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint Heine</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/women%e2%80%99s-rights-officer-fired#comment-40501</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint Heine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another excellent case study for VSM. Every student will be paying for this and theres nothing you can do about it.  Looks like VUWSA is falling apart, and quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another excellent case study for VSM. Every student will be paying for this and theres nothing you can do about it.  Looks like VUWSA is falling apart, and quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Funny.</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/women%e2%80%99s-rights-officer-fired#comment-40045</link>
		<dc:creator>Funny.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at a wedding and this one girl was telling me about how her and her friends played  a game at school called throw the ball at Clelia&#039;s head.

And I laughed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at a wedding and this one girl was telling me about how her and her friends played  a game at school called throw the ball at Clelia&#8217;s head.</p>
<p>And I laughed.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/women%e2%80%99s-rights-officer-fired#comment-40019</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 02:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prediction for an upcoming Salient headline:

 &quot;Normal Person Elected to VUSA; Genuine Lack of Fucktardery Surprising, Welcomed.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prediction for an upcoming Salient headline:</p>
<p> &#8220;Normal Person Elected to VUSA; Genuine Lack of Fucktardery Surprising, Welcomed.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/women%e2%80%99s-rights-officer-fired#comment-39823</link>
		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I laugherd out loud when I read the news about Clelia. Being a former flatmate of mine, I&#039;m not suprised at all.! She called the same hot-line when she was living in my flat and racked up hundreds of dollars on the phone bill. Eventually she was told to leave and to my knowledge still (after several months) owes the former flatmates a great deal of money. &#039;What goes around comes around&#039;  Clelia. Haven&#039;t the psychic  lady clued you in on that yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I laugherd out loud when I read the news about Clelia. Being a former flatmate of mine, I&#8217;m not suprised at all.! She called the same hot-line when she was living in my flat and racked up hundreds of dollars on the phone bill. Eventually she was told to leave and to my knowledge still (after several months) owes the former flatmates a great deal of money. &#8216;What goes around comes around&#8217;  Clelia. Haven&#8217;t the psychic  lady clued you in on that yet?</p>
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		<title>By: nicole</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/women%e2%80%99s-rights-officer-fired#comment-39470</link>
		<dc:creator>nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fo reals, how on earth do you spend FOUR THOUSAND bucks? I wish I had 4000 bucks. I wish I hadn&#039;t maxed out my overdraft.
But seriously. Does anyone know Celia personally to know what was up with all that?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fo reals, how on earth do you spend FOUR THOUSAND bucks? I wish I had 4000 bucks. I wish I hadn&#8217;t maxed out my overdraft.<br />
But seriously. Does anyone know Celia personally to know what was up with all that?!</p>
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		<title>By: sally</title>
		<link>http://salient.org.nz/news/women%e2%80%99s-rights-officer-fired#comment-38862</link>
		<dc:creator>sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 22:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard that she made a verbal resignation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that she made a verbal resignation.</p>
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